Friday, April 12, 2013

Helping Primary Care Doctors Manage Cancer Patients

In the long term, much of cancer care will be in the hands of primary care doctors. Given that reality, we realized we needed to do a concise, crisp and up to date version of Cancer: Principles and Practices of Oncology for primary care doctors. Our new book--Oncology in Primary Care--comes out May 1, 2015. Dr. Michal Rose of Yale joins us as an editor on this one. I'm biased of course, but I think it turned out well.

Thursday, February 21, 2013

Research--The Moving Parts

In the process of going through transformation, the American Cancer Societyonvened a group called Research 3.0 that made recommendations to the ACS Board about how to transform its research programs in the next decade. It is worth looking at Research 3.0 to examine how it will affect two of the moving parts of research programs, the investigators who do the research and the grants or other instruments that support their research.

A good place to start is by defining what we mean by research. How does Clinical Research differ from Basic Research; what is Translational Research, and what do we mean by applied research and applied science? 

Louis Pasteur said there is no such thing as applied research, only research and the application of the results of research. The latter is applied science; the application of what we know to diseases. The failure to distinguish between research and applied science causes much confusion when trying to interpret science budgets and could potentially be a problem in interpreting the recommendations of Research 3.0. 

Research is really a methodology. All good research is characterized by the use of strong inference, a term coined and described in detail by John Platt in 1964 (1). It involves setting up alternative hypotheses, the designing of an experiment or experiments that will exclude one of the hypotheses, developing new hypotheses and repeating the process until only one hypothesis remains standing. 

In other words it involves keeping the facts and throwing away hypotheses!

This is true in the clinic as well as in the laboratory but this is not easy to do.  Many researchers get attached to their hypothesis and design studies to prove it not disprove it. Because of this, the literature is filled with studies defending hypotheses that could have been easily disproved in a properly designed study. 

All good researchers use strong inference to ask fundamental (basic) questions regardless of the size of the particle under study. Science administrators have struggled for decades trying to define the difference between clinical research and basic research but, as you can see, there really is none, methodologically speaking, if both are testing hypotheses using strong inference.

 It is easier to test hypotheses in the lab where experiments can sometimes be set up and completed in days or weeks compared to years for clinical studies.  
But there are some classical examples of fundamental (basic) research in the clinic in Bernard Fischer's studies testing the hypothesis that lymph nodes were not a barrier to metastases in breast cancer but a sign that a tumor had already spread (2) and in the experiments that proved you could cure childhood leukemia and advanced Hodgkin's disease with combination chemotherapy in adults (3, 4). 
    It is also much more difficult to design experiments to exclude a hypothesis in the clinic when the particles are whole humans who can talk back to you.

     When I was Director of NCI's Treatment Division, I reviewed about 1,500 of NCI's clinical protocols looking for those that were using strong inference. Only 5 to 10% of them were actually testing a hypothesis; the rest were applied science. There is nothing wrong with applied sciences as long as it is identified as such. 
    But when good scientists are offered examples of applied science as clinical research they are understandably confused at what passes for research by clinicians.
   Finally, translational research was a term introduced by my successor as NCI Director, Sam Broder. It simply refers to laboratory research that has visible potential applications in the clinic, although the time span from discovery to application is never clear. 
    At the time he coined the phrase, in the early 1990s, it was often difficult to see the clinical application of a study of what might have been an obscure molecule. 
    Translational research has lost much of its meaning today since virtually all laboratory science has visible clinical applications and most grants are categorized as translational research. But translational research is different from applied science because it involves the use of strong inference.

     So what are the major moving parts of Research 3.0? The most important recommendation was to urge the ACS CEO to double the funds devoted to research in the ACS budget over 5 to 7 years. That requires no explanation. It does require that the ACS raise substantially more funds.
     The extramural grant program will be the main beneficiary of any increase in funding and the recommendations of research 3.0 for the extramural research program are shown in Table 1. 
    There are two points to be made from Table 1. 
    The first is that 50% of extramural funds are to be devoted to basic science. Presumably, this means all studies asking fundamental questions , using strong inference, whether they take place in the laboratory or the clinic. 
    
    The second point is the awards in this category will be made only to those in their early careers, under the age of 45. The logic for this is that in order to assure the future of research we need to assure that young scientists are provided the stable support they need to encourage them to stay in the field.     
    But it can be argued that supporting young investigators is really the job of the NIH and NCI as the ACS's research program is too small to affect the nations long term needs of young scientists, and NIH and NCI have special programs for young investigators. 
    In addition, other organizations like the American Association for Cancer Research, the American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO) and the ASCO Foundation and others have substantial special grant programs for young investigators.
     It can also be argued that the ACS should be focused on discoveries that help us to eradicate cancer. In that case,discovery knows no age barrier and major discoveries have been made at both ends of the age spectrum.  By recommending age discrimination in awarding grants, the ACS could be hindering progress toward its basic goals. 
    Most of the movers and shakers in the cancer field are over the age of 45. With an age cut off they are excluded from access to ACS funds. Removing the age limit does not exclude young investigators from applying and the best of them do very well.

     My favorite example of great research at the nether end of the age spectrum was the discovery that information is transmitted by DNA not proteins which laid the foundation for Watson and Cricks work on the structure of DNA and the molecular revolution that followed (5, 6).
     It was made by a retired scientist at the Rockefeller University, Oswald Avery, and has often been referred to as the most important discovery that never won a Noble Prize. Linus Pauling won his Noble Prize for work he did in his 50s. And he was the close runner up to Watson and Crick for the discovery of the structure of DNA or he might have been the first person to win three individual Nobel Prizes. He continued working productively in the lab into his 80's. 
    E. Donnall Thomas and Joseph E. Murray won a Nobel Prize for the definitive and fundamental clinical research they did on organ transplantation while  in their 50s and 60s.
     True in mathematics, if you haven't done anything major by the time you are 40 you probably never will. Not so in biology. Biology is very complex and it takes time to develop the insight and wisdom to solve biological problems. Leo Szilard the famous nuclear physicist, who gave us the nuclear chain reaction, decided at age 47 to become a biologist. 
    After that, he quipped, "I never had a decent bath". While a physicist, Szilard thought through the mathematics of a problem while soaking in a bathtub and could solve complex problems in one bath.
     But when he became a biologist, he said, he often had to interrupt his bath to go look things up! 
   Senior physician-scientists do much of the best work in clinical investigations as was the case with Donnall Thomas and his work on allogenic marrow transplantation. They need years of experience to marshal the resources to design and carry out novel clinical experiments that use strong inference.

     The remaining half of funds, as shown in Table 1, will be in support of grants in response to RFAs that will attempt to align our supported research with ACS mission critical questions. But notice that half of those funds will go to mission critical questions in "applied research" or, strictly speaking, applied science. These monies will not support fundamental research, the lifeblood of discovery. 
    In this category of applied science no age restriction will apply. Finally, the other half of funds allocated in response to RFAs will go to support in areas designated as mission critical but these funds will also be restricted to young investigators receiving research scholar awards. 
    All in all, 75% of ACS extramural research funds will be allocated to young investigators. The 25% for which scientists of any age are eligible would be funds devoted to the application of the results of research, or applied science, not discovery. 
    
    Much of research today is called Big Science because addressing major issues often requires millions of dollars typically not provided in small research grants like research scholar awards provided by the ACS. The type of support instrument to foster discovery has been a subject of heated debate for years. At the NIH the preferred grant instrument is called the RO-1. The RO-1 grant has supported investigator-initiated research, ideas springing from the fertile mind of a single scientist, and is typically a grant to support a small laboratory run by a single investigator. 
    ACS research scholar awards are similar to RO-1 grants.  Research 3.0 recommended the ACS reexamine the use of large program project grants to  accommodate the collaborative nature of science these days. 
    These grants would support teams of scientists each doing a part of a project focusing on one area, or a specific tumor. These kinds of grants are large and expensive and their resurrection will depend on the ability of the ACS to raise the funds to support them or require a reduction in the support for research scholar grants.

     There is often conflict between program directors who want to see the science of their programs advance quickly, and need a more structured approach and those who feel that investigator initiated research remains the future of science. 
     This is not a new issue. Years ago, when the author was Director of the NCI and the National Cancer Program, the institute faced criticism for syphoning monies away from RO-1 grants into other instruments to support research. The other instruments were Program Project grants (PO-1), of the type recommended by the Research 3.0 group, and even research contracts, an instrument generally disliked at the NIH and research universities because it implies external direction of the scientist doing the work.
    To address this question we designed a special study (7). The NCI assembled a panel of elite scientists who were experienced in both laboratory and clinical sciences and asked only that they meet and deliberate to identify what they thought were the ten to fifteen most important advances in cancer science and medicine in the preceding 20 years. 
    After several weeks of in person and phone meetings, they identified 13 different discoveries. We then thanked them for their work and disbanded the committee and hired an external contractor to work backwards from each discovery, and the papers they produced in the scientific literature, to the funding instrument that supported the initial work. As a measure of the quality of the selected topics, scientists in six of the thirteen areas selected have since gone on to win a Nobel Prize for their work. Since at the time ACS was the source of support for only 4.3% of the identified work, only NCI funding instruments were studied.

     The results were surprising. No single grant mechanism dominated. Many different mechanisms supported the traced work. This is shown in Figure 1. It shows the percent of NCI supported trace papers by funding mechanism and type of advance. For studies considered laboratory based, three mechanisms dominated; the RO-1 grant, the NCI Intramural Program and the surprising one, the research contract. But even the P-30 grant, which is the cancer center support grant, through its pilot project grant mechanism, supported the initial work of one investigator who went on to win a Nobel Prize. Only the R-10 grant, which supported the clinical trials program, did not, by definition, play a role in laboratory based studies. 

    For the clinical advances, the dominant grant was the program project grant, the P-01, followed by the R-10, the P-30 and NCI intramural program and only then the RO-1 grant which has not been a support instrument that has worked well for clinical investigations. 
    Finally, fundamental advances in epidemiology were most often supported by research contracts with equal but lesser support coming from PO-1 and RO-1 grants and even cancer center core grants.

     Actually this was a data rich study and is presented here in its most simple form to illustrate the central message that research flourishes when there are multiplicities of ways of supporting it. This is due to the fact that different kinds of projects require different types of support to carry them out at different times in their evolution. One shoe doesnt fit all. This is especially true in the era of big science.
    The most surprising finding was how often the research contract, often considered an inferior instrument, played an important role in the identified projects. This may be due to the tight focus and flexibility contract support provided to investigators that allowed research projects to move forward more rapidly. 
    These findings highlight the importance of the recommendation that the ACS re explore different grant mechanisms to match the needs of modern research.

   There is another important point about larger project grants. While more senior scientists  generally direct them, because they have the experience to coordinate complex projects, they often include support for young scientists as part of the project. This important means of support is often overlooked and needs to be considered one of the other ways to support young scientists in the age of modern science. 
    The Research 3.0 recommendation that 25% of funds go to support mission critical areas in applied science, with no age restriction, is important but needs clarification of the definition of applied research to be sure it includes projects that support fundamental research with clinical application, or translational research, not just applied science.

    Everything we do that works was developed through research.
 As volunteers for the ACS we need to be reminded of this when the temptation is to shy away from research support in favor of programs to provide access to care.
    As sophisticated as cancer care has become it is still what Louis Thomas referred to as half way technology (8). In this sense, cancer is unique as a discipline. Other fields are much more settled in their ways, able to focus on one organ or a small group of disorders affecting one organ, not the hundreds of entities affecting every organ in the body . The cancer field is unsettled and is likely to be that way for some time. 

     While the ACS spends about fifteen percent of its budget on research only about ten percent is devoted to its most visible component the extramural research grants. Yet the majority of donors think their donations are going to support research. 
    There could be a better balance of resources between what we know works and the allocation of resources to research programs that can deliver the next generation of advances.
    Research 3.0, in its totality, represents the beginning of a major new thrust for ACS in the area of research support. If the society can double the funds in the research program in the next 5 to 7 years, and broaden the ways it supports research to match the extraordinary pace and opportunities of modern research, it will play an increasingly important role in unraveling the mysteries of cancer and fulfill our mission to create more birthdays, and meet the expectations of our donors and volunteers.
    If we want to finish the fight we need to devote more money to research and fund the movers and shakers who are doing the cutting edge research in the field.

References
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(5) Avery OT, Macleod CM, McCarty M. Studies of the chemical nature of the substance inducing transformation of pneumococcal types: induction of transformation by a desoxyribonucleic acid fraction isolated from pneumococcus type III. J Exp Med 1944;79:137-58.
(6) Watson JD. The Double Helix A Personal Account of the Discovery of the Structure of DNA. 1968.
(7) An Assessment of Factors affecting Critical Cancer Research Findings; NIH Publication No. 90-567, May 1990.
(8) Thomas, L. The Lives of a Cell: Notes of a Biology Watcher, 1974, Viking Press.




Monday, December 17, 2012

My Induction as President of the American Cancer Society

On November 15, I had the honor of becoming President of the American Cancer Society in its 100th anniversary year.

My induction took place during the Society's Nationwide Volunteer and Staff Leadership Summit in Atlanta. Gary M. Reedy, worldwide vice president of government affairs and policy at Johnson & Johnson and an active Society volunteer for twelve years, was installed as chair of the Board of Directors during the same ceremony. We also added eleven new officers to the board: Pamela K. Meyerhoffer, F.A.H.P., of Litchfield Park, Arizona, chair-elect; Tim E. Byers, M.D., M.P.H., of Arvada, Colorado, president-elect; Robert E. Youle, of Evergreen, Colorado, vice chair; Douglas K. Kelsey, M.D., Ph.D., F.A.A.P., of Zionsville, Indiana, first vice president; Enrique Hernandez, M.D. of Penn Valley, Pennsylvania, second vice president; Daniel P. Heist, C.P.A., of State College, Pennsylvania, treasurer; Robert R. Kugler, Esq. of Haddonfield, New Jersey, secretary; W. Phil Evans, M.D., F.A.C.R., of Dallas, Texas, immediate past president; and Cynthia M. LeBlanc, Ed.D., of Richmond, California.
 
I'm sure you'll be hearing a lot more about my work with Gary, the board, and the ACS over the course of the next year.

Oh, and the mystery man in the picture is my brother, Ernie, who flew in for the occasion.

Wednesday, October 19, 2011

UK Citizens denied Ipilimumab

"Not so NICE" has done it again. On October 14, NICE, the UK's National Institute of Clinical Excellence, announced that it will not approve the use of Yervoy (ipilimumab), for the treatment of unresectable stage III and IV melanoma, despite a randomized trial showing improvement in survival in a situation where there is no effective treatment.

NICE used it's usual excuse: "It is not cost effective."

Almost twice as many patients treated with Yervoy are alive at one year. But, in a news release, NICE chief executive Andrew Dillon criticized the results of the study, saying that Yervoy (ipilimumab) had not been compared to the drugs currently used to treat stage III or IV melanoma.

In U.K. practice, like the rest of the world, this is carboplatin-based chemotherapy, dacarbazine, or supportive care. Will everyone who has seen a good response to the above treatment please raise their hands? I haven't in years, and neither has anyone else.

Where do a bunch of inexperienced bureaucrats get off telling the world's experts how to treat their patients?

Ipilimumab has already been approved by the US FDA and EMA. Very exciting things are happening in melanoma treatment these days and if you have the disease, you want to have the chance to be around to benefit from recent advances. Yervoy (ipilimumab) is one of them.

I guess Britons with advanced melanoma will have to watch from afar. Do they understand that they're being denied the right to live?

Monday, May 3, 2010

The National Cancer Institute's Broken Clinical Trials Program and The New York Times

There was an editorial in The New York Times last week on a report by the Institute of Medicine on the NCI's clinical trials program and its difficulties. The editorial made the point that the clinical trials effort is at the heart of transferring technology to cancer patients, and that it needs fixing.

The IOM report and the editorial missed the major problem, however. So did the letters to the editor on Sunday 2 May from Drs Doug Blayney and Alan Lichter, on behalf of the American Sociey of Clinical Oncology, and from Dr  Bruce Chabner, Clincal Director at Massachusetts General Hospital Cancer Center in Boston.

Blayney and Lichter extoll the virtues of the clinical cooperative groups and claim that the problem is money. They are underfunded, they say. True. Chabner points out that the  NCI's cooperative group program is no longer the main instrument for developing new treatments anyhow. Also true. (In fact they never were. But that's another story.)

But everybody missed the main source of the problem: over regulation.

Apparently this is too much of a lightning rod for people to discuss in public. Over regulation, in the name of patient safety, affects both cooperative group and industry studies. In the name of protecting patients from harm they stifle new developments and instead "protect" patients from access to new treatments.

I refer the reader to an editorial I wrote on this subject in 2009 for Nature Reviews Clinical Oncology and reprinted on this blog shortly thereafter. Pumping money into the archaic mechanisms of doing clinical trials in NCI's cooperative groups won't do an ounce of good if the structural problems aren't fixed first.

Friday, March 12, 2010

A Possible Breakthrough: Personalized Treatment for Hodgkin's Disease

My friend and colleague, Jose Costa, and I recently had an opportunity to write an editorial about  an exciting paper by Steidl et al.  published in The New England Journal of Medicine on March 11, 2010. I thought it would be worthwhile reprinting some of our commentary here because I think the data may be what we've been looking for when it comes to changing the direction of the treatment of Hodgkin's disease. 

The data provided by Steidl and his colleagues, in fact, offer the breakthrough we have been looking for to select patients with a particularly poor prognosis, regardless of stage, for more-aggressive treatment and bring more logic to the treatment of this very curable malignancy.


Steidl and his co-authors discovered a gene signature of tumor associated macrophages and monocytes in patients with Hodgkin’s disease that correlated with outcome. Remarkably, they were able to validate the correlation in an independent cohort of patients using CD 68—an immunohistochemical marker of normal macrophages. 
  
The correlation of CD 68 positive macrophages with outcome was striking. All patients with limited disease, minimally positive for CD 68, were alive and free of disease at the time of the report. The association of CD 68 positivity and disease specific mortality rates was strong in all subsets analyzed. In advanced disease the correlation between macrophage number and progression-free survival is significant.

This study provides a rationale for the use of molecular tools when effective treatments are available but we cannot prospectively separate those who will be cured from current treatment from those who will not respond. 

Hodgkin’s disease is a good example of this type of situation. For almost 40 years now, early stage disease has been curable by radiotherapy, and combination chemotherapy can cure both early and advanced-stage disease. Despite an overall cure rate of around 80%, treatment has stagnated in the past two decades because of the absence of precise markers that can predict response to therapy. As a result of this situation most patients, especially those in early stages of disease, are over treated— they receive radiotherapy and combination chemotherapy. As a consequence, long term toxicity from treatment is significant. 

In some studies where young women have received both chemotherapy and radiotherapy, the incidence of beast cancer reaches almost 30% at 15 years after treatment. Almost all patients with classic Hodgkin disease will go into remission with initial treatment but about 30% of patients with advanced disease and almost 15% of those with early stages of disease will also relapse. Early relapses in patients with both advanced and localized disease treated with chemotherapy defines a drug resistance subset of Hodgkin’s lymphoma. This group carries a very poor prognosis through all subsequent treatment approaches including high-dose treatment with stem cell support.

It is of considerable interest that early relapse from complete remission carries the same poor prognosis in all tumor types where remission is possible, suggesting a common mechanism of resistance across tumor types. If at the time of diagnosis we could identify the small subset of Hodgkin patients who are destined to fail to respond to chemotherapy, most patients could be spared the use of a combination of modalities as initial treatment, especially radiotherapy, that is associated with long-term toxicity.    

The Reed–Sternberg (R-S) cell is unique amongst lymphoma cells in that a number of important signaling pathways have been shown to be constitutively activated, including the JAK-STAT, receptor tyrosine kinases, NF-kappa B and other pathways. The R-S cell also secretes numerous cytokines, including granulocyte-macrophage colony-stimulating factor, which may be responsible for the assembly of inflammatory cells in involved lymph nodes. It has been termed the master regulator of the surrounding inflammatory response.

Almost all tumors types are invaded by macrophages and it was once thought that this invasion represented a host immunological response to the tumor. However, most evidence now links tumor-associated macrophages (TAM) with a poor prognosis, as demonstrated in the study by Steidl and his colleagues. Termed ‘tropic macrophages,’ TAMs bear a close resemblance in function to embryonic macrophages associated with cell migration during development.These macrophages have been shown to mediate blood vessel formation by regulating the angiogenic switch through secretion of VEGF and hypoxia inducing factor.

Migration of macrophages to areas of the tumor seems to be a late event in Hodgkin disease. It is difficult to explain the impact of trophic macrophages on response to treatment unless at some point in the evolution of the disease, a critical pathway to apoptosis is crippled in the R-S cell and this is associated with the secretion of a cytokine that leads to macrophage infiltration of the tumor. Such an event could inhibit cell death in response to cytotoxic treatments. 

Thursday, February 25, 2010

Rationing Health Care is Bad for Cancer Patients

       The current bill before  the house and Senate does a disservice  for cancer patients. It is not correct to say,  " it's true that some people are covered well, but many are not" as I have heard said by people who should know better. It's more correct to say that ,"most Americans  are covered well in the current system." This is especially true of cancer patients. So be careful what you do to change it.
      Cancer patients suffer most when they try to change jobs and are denied health care in a new job because of a preexisting  condition or when the amount they can spend on health care is capped. Like most Americans, they are also concerned about cost of insurance as well.
      In prior postings I exposed the numbers game used by those who support this bill for what it was, a bogus use of numbers to scare the American people into reform they don't need and don't want. There are not 47 million Americans uninsured. Even President Obama has begun to use a lower figure, 30 million,  a little embarrassed , I think , to be caught  using a number no one bothered to check ( this is still an overestimate). The American Cancer Society should feel some embarrassment for doing the same thing.
     But what is as clear as can be is that there is no way the current House and Senate proposal can stay within budget without rationing care. And people I know close to the administration say to me " get real, Vince, rationing is coming". They barely hide this although they don't trumpet it for fear of scaring more people away. They do admit to the need to cut billions from Medicare though.
     The preferred method to decide what to ration is to use "Comparative Effectiveness Research"(CER) to decide what should be approved. A billion dollars has been allocated in the bill for this. The best way to characterize CER is to say that it compares yesterday's therapy with that of the  day before yesterday. It is always behind the curve. The newest approaches need not apply. Cancer patients always get the short end of the stick when care is rationed.
      Look at the UK's National Institute of Clinical Excellence ,(acronym ,NICE -British doctors refer to it as "not so nice"). Their decision to deny coverage for the use of the drug Erbitux in patients with head and neck cancer was one example of  a feckless disregard for cancer patients. There are more. Studies have shown an enormous, statistically significant, difference in survival for those who are irradiated with Erbitux compared with those who don't receive it. Yet they denied coverage.  They actually don't even question the data, they just say it is not cost effective to use it. In other words if you have the misfortune of having head and neck cancer in the UK, you are not worth saving.
      This is the system the bill tries to emulate. It includes commissions to determine standard of care ( in the cancer field, " standard of care" is a moving target ) and authorities to the secretary of HHS that would allow her to limit the use of new technology even without  CER, as NICE did in the UK with Erbitux. The new drug from Plexicon, to which every patient with metastatic melanoma should have access, wouldn't even be considered for CER.
      They know they will need to ration care to pay for this version of health care reform. At the most exciting time in the history of cancer research, when new clinical advances are being made every day in the cancer field these provisions would  stop clinical innovation in its tracks.
      What is needed for the cancer patient is a stepwise approach that preserves the best of the current system and provides more security . Like most people I could write a bill in  ten pages to do this, not the  2,700 pages in the current bill.
      Prevent denial of coverage for a preexisting conditions, remove caps on the amount of coverage and allow insurance to be purchased across state lines. This would do it for cancer patients and save hundreds of millions of dollars as well.
       It's the many mandates included in some state's policies that drive up cost. Purchasing across state lines would allow more people to buy less expensive policies that suit their purposes. This might mean giving up some of our precious  mandates but  isn't it is better to cover more cancer patients well, than force policies on them with too many mandates that are too expensive to buy? 
      Frankly I don't see any organizations purported to be speaking for the interests of cancer patients telling the congress the specifics of what they need and, most especially ,what they don't want. We need the three things mentioned above and we do not want  a system that will require rationing of care .
     Oh , and by the way, the Congressional Budget Office estimates the new bill would still leave 10 to 19 million people uninsured , which is more than are truly uninsured now.